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Posted on: 06-29 10:21 pm
tonyshowoff

I honestly don't see that happening. Even though ICQ now is switching to essentially a sort of REST-based protocol, even if no OSCAR-based system were in use anywhere, the issue of copyright, patents, etc mean that code is often held on to like it's still integral to a company. In that sense you can imagine that there are still companies holding on to code written for VAX, and hell, even UNIVAC that they won't ever open, no matter what.

So in that spirit what happens most of the time is the code is just eventually lost, and never recovered. I do imagine there are copies of code for BOS (Basic OSCAR Service), Grog, Authorizer, and AOL's TIH, BERP, Nav, Chat, etc but they may be, I'm honestly concerned, eventually totally lost forever.

A lot of times, too, in my experience there is a degree of pure stupidity and technological ignorance amongst those who have the code, things like: "20 years ago this took hundreds of servers to run, you couldn't possibly do it now without hundreds of servers!" I saw this problem with people not wanting to open the sources for the late 90s social network bolt.com, I literally was told that because it required at least a half dozen NT4 servers to work, that in the year 2009, there'd be no way that I could do it with BSD, Linux, or Server 2008 (It was written in Java, among other things).
Posted on: 06-29 11:33 pm
ohhihohello57

That must suck, both for the company and the people. Copyright and patents can be cruel things sometimes.

And regarding the technological ignorance stuff, yeah that sucks too. Have to deal with that sometimes, and it annoys me on end.

"20 years ago this took hundreds of servers to run, you couldn't possibly do it now without hundreds of servers!"

That one quote you brought really shows how stupid things can get if source code is handed to the wrong people.

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Posted on: 06-30 3:13 pm
Wankface

About the service's possible popularity: just like with FriendProject, emos are gonna fawn over it!

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Posted on: 06-30 3:43 pm
jcbug

Emo kids aren't that annoying, sure their a bit weird, but everyone is in their own way.

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Posted on: 06-30 3:51 pm
Wankface

@jcbug Ah yes, it might be just my biased perspective, then.

AIM 5.0.2892 w/ DeadAIM 3.2.1 | Y!2 - Rihannsu
Posted on: 06-30 6:18 pm
ohhihohello57

I do agree with Reese when he says that there's the potential of AIM Phoenix being "chopped and dried" by AOL/Oath, if you know what I mean, due to this newly-rising popularity. Despite the fact that AOL has discontinued AIM over a year ago, and that Oath cares more about ruining the companies that join their circle, iWarg's gotta have a backup plan for when Phoenix does reach its eventual fate.

Maybe re-release the service under a completely different name and alias? That's all I can think of, since trying to combat situations involving being "chopped and dried" is quite tricky. =p

Then again, Yahoo! Finance republished Fortune's article on Phoenix here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aim-phoenix-revival-once-popular-131413891.html. Since Yahoo!'s a part of Oath now, I wonder when they'll report this to the AOL portion of Oath. =p

EDIT: From what I've heard, Yahoo! probably wouldn't care. Besides, they're probably too busy counting their stacks and ruining everything they touch. =p

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Posted on: 07-05 12:18 am
ohhihohello57

Hmm...

Seems that searching up any AIM-related keywords into Google now results in endless amounts of links over a year old stating that AIM was dead, with all of the Phoenix-related links scattered far across and on the first page, isn't the most notable hit. So I guess an rapidly expanding userbase is out of the question.

Hopefully word-of-mouth works as well. =p

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Posted on: 12-24 3:47 pm
ohhihohello57

5 months later, I decided to check back on the search results for various AIM-related queries. Seems that articles on AIM Phoenix are somewhere at the top of the first page (from my searches they're the first or third result). Let's see how this plays out... :p

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